Oh, I see! Wow, I can't explain why what Bruce did, I found positive and a sign of gentle consistency and persistence as opposed to massive stalker. It helped that he was literate, polite, and not threatening or ... I wish I could explain the difference concisely, Kent. I don't know how - but you've got a point. Others that say gross stuff online are just horrific. Like don't comment about a woman's body unless you know her well and say it in a polite way - that's one big tip. Don't comment on how gorgeous they are in preference to other forms of conversation ... it's an obvious "tell" and to most women, not appreciated.